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CUSTOM REQUIREMENTS FOR RUSSIAN CITIZENS TRAVELING OVERSEAS

Shustova Natalia (report #6)

(uses the same letters as Vshiwkova (Vshivkova) Anna)

Kazan, Russia.

Tel: not specified 

Address: Republic Tatarstan, the city of Kazan, street Musina 11 flat 38

Email: angelok2805@rambler.ru; troya.milash@rambler.ru 

DOB: March, 15, 28 yo

Submitted: 10/16/05


This time it's a bit different in that our friend Natalia isn't using just e-mails to try and scam people, but also internet chatrooms on dating sights. I found her earlier today on Amoureux.com a French based dating site that's free to join and use. I have to admit I was somewhat surprised she answered my request to chat, as she ignored me yesterday. I guess I began to be a bit suspicious when I read her profile, or rather noticed the lack of detail - something I've come to notice that a lot of scammers do, I suppose it leaves fewer 'facts' to get wrong! I attach the whole of our conversation, (with slight editing to protect my identity) and a collection of photographs she sent me. I notice that she's now using a new e-mail address: troya.milash@rambler.ru 
However, She's still claiming to be in Kazan, and using an internet cafe located in the same building as where she lives. She claims to be a low-paid bookeeper in a school, earning 500 USD a month, and I did think it was odd that she should start talking salaries with a complete stranger! She later started talking about being short of money for the new year, and needing 200 USD to cover the costs of buying presents etc. Smelling a rat, I quickly explained that I am on a low income too, (and it's true) getting something akin to some sympathy into the bargain! However, soon after this, our Natalia seemed to lose interest, claiming to be sleepy. One last, curious thing, Natalia's English seems to come and go, sometimes her spelling, grammar and syntax are just about perfect, but at others, her meaning is obscure to say the least.

I shall make a report to Amoureux, as they do take frauds of this kind seriously, and frequently delete my messages before I can get to them if they suspect that there's a scammer behind it. This is fantastic service when you consider that this dating site is completely free to use.

The only advice I can give to people, is use your built in crap detector, if someone appears too good to be true, then they almost certainly are.

Follows is the conversation Natalia and I had.

Yours faithfully,

Patrick

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Patrick: Hello Natalia

Natalia: Hello!

Natalia: How are you?

Patrick: I am fine thank you, how are you?

Natalia: Where do you live?

Patrick: I live in XXXX, Wales, UK, what about you?

Natalia: I live in Russia, Kazan

Natalia: do you know this city

Patrick: Where is Kazn near to?

Natalia: Do you know Moscow? Kazan is in 750 kms from Moscow

Patrick: I know where Moscow is, but I've never been to Russia

Natalia: I looked your profile, you have an extensive circle of interests. I too have.

Patrick: Yes, I looked at your profile too!

Natalia: Forgive, I have absolutely overlooked! I congratulate you on Christmas!!!! How has passed a holiday?

Natalia: If you want, I can send you some my photos.

Patrick: I had a very quiet Christmas holiday, how about you?

Patrick: I would like it very much if you sent me some of your photos

Natalia: I did not celebrate Christmas now because in Russia the Christmas will be celebrated on January, 7! Tell to me e-mail

Patrick: my e-mail is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Patrick: Ah, so you still go by the old calendar?

Natalia: Yes!

Patrick: There is a place in Wales where the New Year is celebrtated according to the Gregorian calendar

Natalia: I send you some photo now

Patrick: Thank you

Patrick: Natalia, what kind of music do you like?

Natalia: All has gone, you have received it?

Patrick: I will check now

Natalia: I love different music, I like dancing, I like Dj Suhov, DJ Viper, Dj Polina, I love quiet music under which it is possible to fall asleep, I very much like to sleep under quiet mu

Natalia: I love quiet music under which it is possible to fall asleep, I very much like to sleep under quiet music, and you?

Patrick: I like all kinds of music, dance music, indie, rap and hip hop

Patrick: I also like classical music

Patrick: Thank you for the photos

Natalia: I am glad, that they like you. have You children?

Patrick: No, I don't have any children

Patrick: do you?

Natalia: I too have no, but I very much want!

Patrick: I am sure you will have some children one day, because you want them

Natalia: To you already it is so much years why you have no children?

Patrick: I have never met anyone I wanted to have children with

Natalia: I also met nobody, from whom I would like to have children! I want to meet serious the man which becomes for me the true husband, the careful father!!!

Patrick: You have plenty of time Natalia, for your dream to come true

Patrick: Are you still there?

Natalia: I am here

Patrick: What work do you do?

Natalia: Thanks for support! I done not interested at all with a difference in the age of!

Natalia: I work as the bookkeeper at school, I have very small salary, only about 150 USD!

Patrick: I don't understand

Natalia: What do you do?

Patrick: I teach the XXXXXXXX to XXXXX

Natalia: There should be more obedient pupils than children!!!:)

Patrick: Natalia, you wrote: "Thanks for support! I done not interested at all with a difference in the age of!" what did you mean?

Patrick: Sometimes adults are obedient, but sometimes as bad as children!

Natalia: I have told, that the difference in the age of me does not frighten, that is my husband can become for example you!!!!:))

Patrick: Oh, you mean that an age difference doesn't bother you at all!

Patrick: And I am very flattered that you can consider me!!!

Patrick: ;)

Natalia Really that language, what you teach differs from XXXXX?

Patrick: XXXX? It's very different from XXXXX

Patrick: It's a language that's about XXXXXX

Patrick: it's a language that's XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Patrick: And has origins XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Natalia: Awfully interestingly!!! You have any manual which you can send me on my address

Patrick: For example:XXXXXXXXX means XXXXXXXX

Patrick: I can send you some things by e-mail, and also give you some website addresses

Patrick: I do know that there is a Russian woman who has learned XXXXXXXX, I'll try and find out about her

Natalia: I could not read as it sounds, but in Russia cqxfc it is really cold, but in two days will be absolutely warm. Now the frost-29 C, and in a new year's eve will be +1

Natalia: Perfectly, send me on my e-mail!

Patrick Welsh is easy to pronounce, easier than English, it sounds as you read it

Patrick: OK, I shall send you some information by e-mail

Patrick: Maybe you could teach me some XXXXXXXX?

Patrick I have always been fascinated by XXXXXXXXX

Natalia I think, that I can learn you a little!:))

Patrick That would be very good

Patrick and it's "teach you a little" not "learn you a little"

Patrick: In English, a distinction is made between teaching and learning!

Natalia: Sorry, yes

Patrick: Is the Russian word for 'teach' the same as for to learn?

Natalia Yes, in Russian it sounds equally and means same

Patrick It's XXXXXXXXXXX to mean learn or teach - can be a little confusing!!

Natalia: Already absolutely soon a holiday, and I at all do not feel celebratory mood!

Patrick: why not?

Natalia: Because I have no money to buy a gift for myself and for the girlfriend.

Patrick: That's not good

Natalia: Our school cannot pay the salary to workers before celebrating of new year, as earlier!

Natalia: This year the school has spent many means for repair of premises, therefore the salary I can receive only on January, 10

Patrick: I know how it is to be living on a small salary

Natalia: To make gifts for itself and for the girlfriend became for me tradition and a guarantee of happy new year!

Natalia: I do not know at whom I can take money, I need all in 200 USD, but nobody can give me them because all I are familiar have spent money for celebrating of new year!

Patrick: It's difficult to live on a small salary, and for many years now I have not bought gifts for anyone

Natalia: How you live? What salary at you?

Patrick: I live very frugally, my salary is about XXXXX a month

Natalia: Probably, you also do not have what you would like?

Patrick: Sorry Natalia, I got disconnected

Patrick: No, I have not got a lot of things that I would like to have

Patrick: Are you there?

Natalia: Forgive, I have casually closed this window

Patrick No, I have not got a lot of things that I would like to have

Patrick Are you there?

Natalia Forgive, I have casually closed this window

Patrick Are you at home now?

Natalia No, I in Internet - cafe, it is in the same building, as my house, to me is not slept, therefore I have come here!

Patrick Do you spend a lot of time in the internet cafe?

Natalia I come here every day, I have decided to find for myself the husband through the Internet

Patrick That's a good thing to do

Patrick I'm sure you've met many good people on the internet

Patrick Are there not any good men in Russia?

Natalia Yes, I was disappointed in the Russian men, they drink vodka and do not respect women

Patrick That is not good, but I am sure that you have met many good men on the internet

Patrick Are you there?

Natalia I want to sleep

Patrick OK, you must go and sleep, I hope we will talk again soon

Natalia OK! Bye!

Patrick bye

Patrick I have enjoyed our chat

 

 

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