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| | Sergeev Kirill (report #1)
(uses the same pictures as Moskalev Aleksandr)
Kovrov, Russia
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Tel: not
specified
Address: Truda street, 52, do
vostreb. Kovrov, 601904 , Russia
Email: kir25@pisem.net
DOB: not
specified
Submitted: 10/16/05
Dear Sirs/Madames:
I received an email from this person about 3 weeks ago, and except for
weekends would send me 3 - 4 emails per week. He said he saw my profile on
Gay.com, and didn't know why, but picked me to write to. I will place his
letters in the same order as I received them in the attachments, and the
same with his pictures. Well his emails started out innocently enough, as
you will see, he had no phone used the internet cafe during the week, (was
closed weekends) and worked for a factory which manufactured motorcycles in
Kovrov, Russia. about the 4th message from him, I started to suspect
something, so I went online and typed Russian Scammers (didnt know if it
would work or not) and your site along with several other sites came up. I
visited 1 site which showed a picture of the person I was emailling with. I
wasn't sure at the time if it were he or not, but I showed my niece that
picture online, and compared with the ones I had received in my emails from
him. My niece said she didn't think it was a picture of the same person,
About 1 week later, I received his email, and would you believe it he
included the very same picture that I had found online. So then I knew
without doubt that this person was the same person listed as a scammer on
online, but had a different name.
Below I will list the things I know of him.
Name: Kirill Sergeev / Aleksandr Moskalev
Address: Truda Street, 52 do Vostreb Zarechnyl, Russia
Kovrov, 601904, Russia
Age: 25 25
Email: kir25@pisem.net ?
Occupation: Engineer ?
Motorcycle Factory in Kovrov ?
Mother's Name: Maria ?
Father;s Name: Petr ?
Didn't give married brother's name whom lived at home.
Had a Rottweiller Dog named Kashtan ?
He said he worked 5 days a week, 8 hours a day at the factory. Also said he gets up 7 a.m. and has to be at work by 8 a.m.
He said he lives close to factory, but then said it takes him 25 to 30 mins by bus to get to work, (this alerted me a bit, because if
he ate breakfast washed and shaved, brushed teeth, ate breakfast no way could he be at work by 8 a.m.
He said he has two friends named Aleksandr and Grisha.
I found another scammer listed as Konstantin Rodionov online, and he claimed
to have 2 friends named Kirill and Grisha.........(which really caught my
attention).
The picture that was displayed with scammer Aleksandr Moskalev is the very
same picture as the second last picture received from Kirill Sergeev. (his
finger at the mouth as if he were saying "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh".
Please note: Kirill never did ask for money, hinted alot tho that he would
like a computer at home so he could contact me quicker. As soon as I
received his second last letter, I sent him back a nasty letter, which for
some reason he didn't see, as he sent me 1 more letter, and that was on
friday last 14th Oct. 2005. I do not now expect any other emails from him,
unless it is a nasty one.
I hope I sent along all that is required to get this person put on the
scammers list. I am keeping an eye out for him, and if he should be trying
this again with someone else, I will inform you right away ok?
Thankyou in advance, do feel free to contact me if you need further
information or help with this persons info.
Yours truly,
David
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Hello David, I am glad to receive your response to my letter from gay.com. You know that
my name is Kirill, I live in Kovrov city, Russia. This is city about
160 000 people, in the middle part of Russia - to the east from Moscow.
It about 250 kilometers from Moscow in Vladimirskaya area.
Kovrov more all is known as city, where make the automatic shooting weapon,
but also we have factory on manufacture of motor-engineering.
Small but nice city. We have cold winter and hot summer. I hope it is not problem for
you that I am not in America? At last we can be just friends. I contacted to
people from gay.com and they didn't want to tak to me because I am not in the
same city they are, I hope it is not problem for you. Do you know someone in
Russia? If so you can know about country I live in. I am 25 years but many
people tell me I look younger. I used gay.com because in Russia we don't have
place for gays and where we can date. I read that many people find each other on
this beautiful site gay.com! I have never know about such kind of sites in
Internet. I found about gay.com fortuitously in Service of International
corresponding in our city and I decide to use it. We don't have any gay life
here in Russia and I was wondering when saw site for gays. Almost all people
hate gays here. I have never been in America but I know, gay life there more
easier so I decided to look partner in America. As for Russia, it is one of the
counties where gays persecuted everywhere. I know, America is not paradise and
we have some persecution too but it is much more better then here. Not that long
ago, we had law that gays were felons and put in prison just for reason, that
you are gay. Time went and we don't have this terrible law but people think the
same way.
Nobody know I am gay, just my family. Even my friends don't know about me, they
will not accept this. They are good friends but people here have a little
different point of view and I am not judge them. My family accept me and love me
even that I am gay and will not bring them grandsons. I had boyfriend once. We
don't meet anymore and I don't want this. We had been together for about 2 years
and he made me very hurt. He cheated me but I was blind and didn't notice this
long time. I gave him much love but never got the same back.
I want to tell you what I am looking for. I am looking for a serious, healthy
relationship, based on friendship, trust and honesty. Honesty is very important
for me. I am looking for someone who I can trust, be true friend and nice
partners if we are lucky . I don't look for one night stands or just sex, so if
you interested just in sex or want to play games, please, don't make it with me.
I am looking for someone I can love and who loves me the same way. I want to
find someone who I can trust and love without reservation. I want to have
someone to spend cold winter evenings together and hot summer sunset, to make
things together, to have breakfast together, to share life together and have
each day more better then past one. Does it possible?
I hope it is not bother that I am younger you? It is good for me and I don't
want to have young boy who have just sex in their mind, who need toy in their
hands, who can leave me someday and go to someone else. I will not be able to
survive this again. Also I more like older man, it is my preference. Age is just
number. I hope you don't think about younger man like I think because I am not
like mostly people my age and I do know what I want and maybe you will realize
this later. Know, I feel that I made right chose I wrote you. There are many
people are there on gay.com and I can't explain why I write you. I think it is
very difficult to explain and no one would be explain this. I will tell you
later when I know you better does it was right when I know you better. I am
working with gay.com about 1 month but I still am not lucky in finding right
people. I don't write to anyone and no one write me now. Maybe it is better
because if I fall in love and he tell me bye-bye it will much more harder for
me. I want to offer you my friendship in the beginning and if all will work out
we can be more then just friends. Anyway we can be just true friends, friends
are always good.
I don't smoke at all, drink just occasionally. Don't use and never tried drugs.
what about you?
Well, I better stop here. WE will have much time to talk too if you are still
interested, I hope so. I hope you are not bored my letter? :) I didn't suppose
that will write that long, but when I say your letter I was very glad and wrote
long one. Know, I tried to write 2 weeks ago to 1 another guy from gay.com also
but he didn't want to talk just because I didn't have pic. Anyway I scanned one
of my pic and send to you. I will not send it to him because I don't think he
was serious if didn't write just because if pic. Ok, forget about him :) I am
enclosing pic to know how I look like. This pic was made in summer 2003 year but
I think I have not changed. I hope you like this pic and I will send you more
resent pic the other day. I don't have many pics but I will see what I have to
send. I hope you will like how I look like and it will not scared you away :-) I
will send you more pics later. I also will tell you about my job and family,
I work at a factory on manufacture of motorcycles. I make various details
for them on the machine tool.
With hope,
Kirya (so you can me name)
P.S. Write me to kir25@pisem.net, this is the only way to write me now. I used
Service of International corresponding and I paid not for membership for
time to get access to gay.com. I am looking forward for your next letter and
please, tell me more about you.
From: Kirya
Date: 10/03/05 15:25:56
Subject: I like getting your letters!
Hello comrade David!! Do you know what comrade means? Here in Russia "comrade" means
person who is your friend and who you respect. I called you comrade because I
like you and every your letter very interesting and I wait everyone. I can
hardly wait until I will be able to go to the Internet cafe and see your letter.
It is another day and another letter from you! YEAAHHH! :) I like getting your
letters. I have good mood today and I long sharing more information with you. I
think it is good way to know each other, with letters. I don't feel myself
lonely now. Do you know that I found in myself another hobby? My favorite -
getting your letters and sending you :)
I think you would like to know better what I do during the day. Well. The most
part of day I am working. We used to work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week her in
Russia but sometimes I work more then 8 hours. You know that we are workers work
unlimited but I like what I am making. I wake up at 7:00 am, get breakfast,
wash, clean teeth and get shower. It takes for me about 15-20 minutes at all. My
work begins 8:00 am. On breakfast I usually have 2 eggs, bread with butter and
BIGGGGG cup of tea. I like tea more if I have choice but coffee makes me wake up
more easier if I am sleepy. But my favorite food is Italian food. I also like
spice. Do you? I tried Chinese and Japanese food and I like sushi. Not rich
choice to try, huh? But here we used to eat Russian food and it
includes Italian pasta, chicken, potato, and soup especially. I like salads from
celery and I do like oranges. Do you liked oranges or mandarin? What fruits do
you like? I like pear alot. Sometimes I eat one orange on breakfast, it is
health-giving. After breakfast I go to work, it is not far away from my home. I
don't have car so I reach to work by bus. It takes about 25-30 minutes to reach
work. Work begins at 8-00 am. Work ends at 5pm (8 hours to work and 1 hour to
lauch). After job I return to home and eat. I like cooking and make it really
good. I almost always cook dinner because I like it. After dinner I like to
relax after job, see TV, I have 18 channels on TV. Sometimes I like reading
books (now I am reading "Danger meeting" by Russian writer. It is detective ).
Also I like getting together with friends, talk to my family. But now I have
another issue in my schedule - go to Internet cafe and write to you. I try to
make it as often as possible. I try to devote as much as possible time for you
but I use computer for money here and I am not able to use it very long. If I
have computer at home I would write you every day. I end my day at about 12:00
pm (midnight) and if I don't want to sleep I can read books. I don't like read
alot but sometimes it is very nice. I read detectives mostly.
I like listen to music and sometimes I wear my tape player with me. Music makes
me relax and help to imagine world better and life in a good fantasy in a bad
mood. Every type of music for different mood. I like hearing calm and romantic
music, imagine something and it makes me relax and feel comfortable. I don't
like disco alot. There are many people are very drunk and go there just to pick
up girl and make sex to her. Does much people in America go clubbing for the
same goal? I don't like this. By the way I like dancing. Do you like dancing? I
like dancing at home too. Sometime if I have good mood and no one at home, I
turn music on and dance. I like dancing when I cook too :) As for weekends, I
don't make something special. I know, European make something special, go to
club or picnic, but Russians more close to family and we stay at home on weekend
with family and relax. What about America? Of course, some people go clubbing
but I don't go. We go to cinema, in theater with friends and spend nice time.
Sometimes we go hiking, I like this very much. I don't have many friends but who
I have I know from childhood... I hope this will make you more imagination what
my life is here. Tell me about your life and what do you during the day.
I told you that I wrote to people from gay.com before I met you but you are very
different. I talked to 3 another guys and they wanted just sex and asked me to
send them naked pics. Don't get me wrong, sex is wonderful but when it goes in
relationship with lovely man. I don't want to be just toy for sex. I will never
be sexual close to someone I don't love. You know I am seeking a true 1-on-1
long-term relationship. I am very caring, warm, honest and understanding person.
It sometimes just takes awhile for me to become close and open up to someone. As
you should know, many guys are just looking for sex ONLY... They change sex
partners regularly and it is good for them. I am very glad you are not like
they. I want a guy who will love me for WHO I am, even when I'm 90 years old and
can't have sex anymore :) I want a guy who would care about me, make something
pleasant, showing his love in acts. I want to hold his hand and feel that he is
my man and I don't want to worry he will go to someone else. I believe someday
we can develop strong relationship together. I will not rush you, we will go
steps and see what happen. I am kind of shy person but it is easy for me to open
up to you. I am finding myself on looking forward every your letter and very
glad when I see one. I think about this at work and at home. It gives me alot of
joy.
I am writing to you but no one know that I do this. I didn't tell my family
about you but I think about this. You are getting close and close to me with
every letter. I hope we can be more then just pen-pals one day.
Thank you for telling me about your birthday.
I will not miss one!!!
I want to talk you my favorite things. My favorite food is Italian and I also
like Japanese food so much. My favorite color is blue, my favorite drink is
Pepsi, my favorite TV-channel is animal planet, my favorite singer is Josh
Groban and Savage Garden, my favorite season is summer. What about you? Please,
answer at the same questions.
I wanted to tell you more about my past life but time is over. I will write you
about this next letter. I think I can believe you. I will anxiously await for
you letter next time!!!
Looking forward for your next letter,
your Kirya.
From: Kirya
Date: 10/07/05 01:48:53
Subject: I want to have you in contact all the time!
Hello David, my dear friend.
Yes, we have Christmas, and Helloween we do not celebrate.
It is a pleasure to write you again. I can't believe that
I could share my past with you. I have never thought I can open up to someone
and tell that. I have told not call to police because police don't like gays
more then anyone else. It is prohibited to be gay in police. It is not crime to
be gay now (but it was before) but police can beat very very hard. So I try to
keep far away from police. In the last time police is not good, rude and
corrupt. I think it is not just in Russia.. It was very important to me, you are
the only person who I told about that. I feel that I can share and don't be
afraid you will tell police and bad people about this. I also feel that you are
interested. I am very scared someone know I am gay and I will have trouble. You
are nice person, I even don't know why much people here in Russia don't like
Americans. I think it is because of cold way in the past. I am not a bad
tempered person. I am not angry. Sometimes i get upset if I loose my keys or a
couple of days I could not find my wallet at home.. I was laughing because I
knew I must find it soon. I found it yesterday. It was a few feet from me
someplace and I could not see it. I have soft character. It is important in
relationship to be able to give in each other. What about you? What is your
character like? I know you are nice person :) I never thought that will tell it
someone else about my past experience but I shared about this with you. Am I
crazy? I was laying in the bed last night and was wondering that I could make
this. Thought we are talking not long, I know much about you. It is great you
are open up to me and can open your soul and talk what is inside of you. You
letters touch me. I feel very good when I see your letter in my mailbox. I am
very intolerance to read them! Even system administrator of the cafe told me not
press mouse's buttons so hard :-) Seems I have to buy my own mouse, he he he. I
was very exited to see your letter and when I could not open one I pressed
button on mouse again and again, several times. I don't know, but you are waking
my feelings which was keep in myself for a long time, since I was hurt. I don't
know to be glad or be afraid? With my heart I feel I don't have to be afraid! I
should tell you that I believe my inner feelings and they never put me in a spot
and I hope I don't mistake this time.
I told you about myself, my family. Let me tell you about my friends. I have
many friends but 2 of them are true. They are not gays and don't know I am gay.
I am afraid to tell them I am gay because I know they will not support to me. I
don't blame them for this because they grown up in Russia and have common views
on life and principle. Their names are Alexander and Grisha. I will never tell them
I am gay, because I am afraid to loose friends because of this. If I loose
friends I will completely lonely here. I know, true friends should support me
anyway but it don't work in this county. Gays are social outcast here. Now I
found you and I am happy twice - I have good friends and you. Sometimes we go to
movie, theatre, cafe or clubbing. I don't go clubbing often because my friends
wondered why I don't date girls and I am getting very confused and shamed. Also
I told that many people get drunk very hard and see at girls just to bring them
in the bed or begin fight or something else. I don't like this. I want to go and
relax but not see at silly drunk boys who bother people have fun. One of my
colleague from work was in Prague and told that was in club and it is much more
civilizable. People go there to relax and dance. He liked there very much.
I am glad you drop in my life, it filled my life with colors. I have never was
boring person but now I feel something have changed in my life. I know, it can
seems silly but my feelings begin grow, which were killed for a long time when I
broke to my former boyfriend. Now, getting your letters I am not able to hold
smile at my lips. I will think about you today... You should know you are part
in my daily life.
I feel you are very important to me it is scare me a little. No, don't get me
wrong, I don't afraid you, you are not scare me and never will! I am afraid to
lost contact to you one day. Today I have letters from you but one day if
something happen I will not have another way to reach you, because this e-mail
is only way to connect to you. Tell me your full home postal address, full name
and phone where I can reach you (cell and home). Maybe I will call you someday
in future and when we install phone at home you can call me too. I am sorry, I
have not phone at home to give you number but when I get one I will just tell
you it!
I will give you my address too:
Kirill Sergeev.
Truda street, 52, do vostreb.
Kovrov, 601904 , Russia
You see, my full name is Kirill Sergeev. Kirill - first name, Sergeev-second name.
I had problem with my e-mail but now it is fixed. I don't know why but sometimes
I get ads with attachments and they try to make my mailbox full. How could they
found me? I don't know. I make spam filter for them and it helps me.
Well, enough for today. I will write you later. Can't wait your next letter,
Hugs,
Kirya.
From: Kirya
Date: 10/10/05 05:05:08
Subject: I want to share to my parents
You are again gladden me with your letter David!!!!! My heart getting filled more
tenderness and warmness to you! I see you are very kind, tender, responsive
person. I see you have very interesting views on life. I can ask you advice and
I think I can trust you - I understood it from your first letters... But now,
after knowing you better I feel I am able to entrust you fully! Everyday I
listen music but I have never met the musicians or the artists - but I like
them. Every day I watch people on the television that I do not know, have never
met or spoken to them - but I like them. Every day I read books which are
written about people I do not know, never met and many of them are characters
who never existed in the real, those books were written by people that I do not
know or have never met but I still like them. Our lives ruled by people far away
from us that we have never never contacted but they make the laws which we live
by. Therefore I do not think that it is unusual for people such as you and I to
know each other although we have never met. In fact, I think that we know each
other much better than many people that we see and talk to in our everyday
lives. So, I believe that it is a good thing that we write to each other and
share our lives in this manner until we move into the future. I have known you
for short time but I have grown so close to you. I should tell you I am falling
with you. I was thinking last night about one place, safe and beautiful place
where always warm and sunny... That place doesn't exist and no one can reach
there. Every person can reach any place on the earth but that place was
accessible just for us - you and me. That place beautiful only when pair is
together, we are like parts of one mechanism which makes all work. I am happy I
could find that place. It is invention but when I am alone with thoughts about
us I feel myself safe and warm.
Thank you for giving me your address. I will fill this in my book with friends
contacts.
I didn't make anything special this weekend. Especially we go to the cinema or I
spend weekend at home. I spent all weekend with my family. It was great to get
together with all my family where no one in a rush and have family dinner
together..
So beautiful picture!!
Darling, I want to tell you something. Please, be honest with me always. Don't
get me wrong, I see you are honest but if we want to develop good and health
relationship honesty is necessary. We are far away and just being honest with
each other we can find out about each other enough. Not you, not me don't want
to give myself to someone fully and later find out I don't need him! I know, you
are not such person and I am able to rely on you. Just thought.
Now I think time comes to tell to my parents about you. When I have some good
news and feelings I can't keep them inside of me and make them grow. I didn't
tell them about you before, no one know we are writing to each other and all the
more I am falling with you. Nevertheless I don't know how they will be feel then
they know you are all over the world in America. I don't remember, if I told you
that not all people Americans because of cold war in the past. It is silly but
many people think so. Of course, my parents different and like all
nationalities. God created people and all have the same rights to live, to love
and be happy. I told about living in another country where gays more acceptable
but they don't know about you. But I know my parents are very good and
understanding. I don't think they will against because they love me and want me
to be happy and when I am happy they are happy too. I think to have talk to them
this night so I can tell about our speech next time. Get your fingers crossed :)
This picture was made by the past in the summer on a coast of our small river.
It was a little more cool, therefore I so is warmly am dressed.
You like this photo? I then shall send you still my photos.
I wish I could write more, I have to go. Thank you that you are there for me.
Kiss your sweet lips lightly,
Kirya.
From: Kirya
Date: 10/14/05 04:37:13
Subject: Life is nice!
Hi, my gladness David! Thank you for your nice letter, thank you! You can't imagine
how happy I am that me and my parents were wrong, I believe that you are that
man you are writing. I really have not felt myself good have these heavy
thoughts.. I know you are good guy and you are who you are telling. I will never
doubt in you. I am much more better, enjoy your company. I also have some good
things to tell you. I had talk with my parents. I talked them that about us. I
told that I write you and was in Church. I told what I feel. You know, any
parents want to warn their child. I told all about you.
I showed them your pic, how sincere and honest you are to me. My father
told that if you were bad person you would never write me back. Also you gave me
your home address and you don't hide anything from me. It is very important.
Thank you for understanding me and my parents but now I will not doubt.
You did and it showed your sincerity and your intentions. I do appreciate this.
My parents think that you are that person who you are talking and asked me to
tell you hello. They are glad I met you and you bring alot of smile and joy in
my life. Thank you for your honesty to me, this is very important in
relationship. Even if 2 people love each other and relationship have lie, it
will crash in the long run. So I do appreciate your honesty to me.
Please feel free to tell me ALL that you want, please feel free to ask me any
question and talk to any topic. Honey, sometimes I think how things is going on
at your end. If you have any problem or something you need to share to someone
please feel free to tell me, I will help you how I am able. Write me about this
without fail, ok? I know on my experience when you have some questions or doubts
it is hard to keep them inside.
You can't imagine how much joy I have getting your letters! I wish you were
close to me. It is difficult that you are so far away. I have been thinking how
would be beautiful to have you next to me while we are sleeping.. I was
fantasizing having you laying next to me in bed. We were naked but not making
love. Yes, I don't like word "sex", I like word "making love". You had your leg
over my legs and your head nestled in my arms. Your arm was over my chest and my
hand was resting on your butt. We were watching television and you fall asleep.
These moments I am looking forward. Every one can make love (and we will one
day!) but not everyone can spend quiet time together. But now it is just dream.
You probably think I am young boy but I do have these thoughts in my head. I
know life is not just romantic and love but sometime it don't that good. I
imagine our future in my thoughts, just you and me! together... I am ready to
some this dreams in true. It is hard for me be here so far away from you,
especially now when you are so close to my heart. Especially it is difficult at
nights. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of night and look up you next to me. I
wish to wake up and find you next to me, but when I open eyes I see nothing,
just pillow I am embracing. I want you to replace that pillow, I think I will
have to change pillow because of every night hugs it gets too sick :-) :-) After
sweet sleep and after reading your beautiful letters I still have feeling of
warm and calm, when you know you have someone whom you need, who wait you and
who feel something about you. Now I have someone for the sake of who I can smile
again. After my sleeps and dreams, reading your letters I understand - life is
wonderful, and it was created just for me. When my X-boyfriend hurt me and we
broke up I thought life had stopped and I afraid I will never find someone I can
fall in love. with you life never stops! In past, I lost faith in guys and love.
Until I met you. You made my feelings wake up and hear beat faster. I don't want
to stay here in Russia now when you are there. I know, it will great step to
leave my family and friends and begin life in new country which I don't know and
where never was. But I have you me and I don't care about anything. Know, I used
gay.com just from despair and fate connected us together.. Now I understand how
important thing I made used gay.com. I feel myself free with you like I was not
open no one before. Seems, I know you more with so short time then I knew my
x-boyfriend for years.
This photo is made at me at home, it is a fresh photo, I am pleasant to you on it?
When me photographed, I thought of you.
Well, time finish here. Till next time my sweet. I will wait for your nice
letter next time!
With smile on my lips and nice thoughts in my head,
With love,
Your Kirya.
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